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	<title>Comments on: My thoughts on the new learner driver rules&#8230;</title>
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	<description>Mad ramblings whenever I feel like it....</description>
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		<title>By: Grannymar</title>
		<link>http://blog.ellybabes.com/2007/10/26/my-thoughts-on-the-new-learner-driver-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5195</link>
		<dc:creator>Grannymar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George - it is easier to whinge than pick up a phone....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George &#8211; it is easier to whinge than pick up a phone&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ellybabes &#187; More learner driver news&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://blog.ellybabes.com/2007/10/26/my-thoughts-on-the-new-learner-driver-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5194</link>
		<dc:creator>ellybabes &#187; More learner driver news&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the government&#8217;s partial U-turn on the changes to the learner driver rules, I was interested to see an article on breakingnews.ie today. Apparently around 2,400 learner [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the government&#8217;s partial U-turn on the changes to the learner driver rules, I was interested to see an article on breakingnews.ie today. Apparently around 2,400 learner [...]</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://blog.ellybabes.com/2007/10/26/my-thoughts-on-the-new-learner-driver-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5193</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my co-workers was telling me this morning they rang to follow up on their test application on friday. They were offered a test spot tomorrow, which was too soon, was then offered a test slot on friday which was still too soon. When they asked for a date further out they got a test slot at the end of november.

It&#039;s not really relevant with the U-turn over the weekend but it does beg the question, how many of the people who complained about the waiting lists actually checked with the relevant authority?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my co-workers was telling me this morning they rang to follow up on their test application on friday. They were offered a test spot tomorrow, which was too soon, was then offered a test slot on friday which was still too soon. When they asked for a date further out they got a test slot at the end of november.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not really relevant with the U-turn over the weekend but it does beg the question, how many of the people who complained about the waiting lists actually checked with the relevant authority?</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier</title>
		<link>http://blog.ellybabes.com/2007/10/26/my-thoughts-on-the-new-learner-driver-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5191</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you rely on the instructor to take over, you fail the test... that&#039;s how it works!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you rely on the instructor to take over, you fail the test&#8230; that&#8217;s how it works!</p>
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		<title>By: ellybabes</title>
		<link>http://blog.ellybabes.com/2007/10/26/my-thoughts-on-the-new-learner-driver-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5190</link>
		<dc:creator>ellybabes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olivier, I totally agree about the learner failing the test and then driving home - it&#039;s just completely wrong.

However, I&#039;d query the logic of a learner doing all their lessons in dual control cars - there is certainly an argument for a certain number of lessons as they start to learn being done in such a car, but after they reach a certain level then it is better to move to their own car (the one they will be doing the test in).  Learners can become too reliant on the fact that their instructor can take over if they do something wrong - and real life doesn&#039;t work that way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olivier, I totally agree about the learner failing the test and then driving home &#8211; it&#8217;s just completely wrong.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;d query the logic of a learner doing all their lessons in dual control cars &#8211; there is certainly an argument for a certain number of lessons as they start to learn being done in such a car, but after they reach a certain level then it is better to move to their own car (the one they will be doing the test in).  Learners can become too reliant on the fact that their instructor can take over if they do something wrong &#8211; and real life doesn&#8217;t work that way!</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier</title>
		<link>http://blog.ellybabes.com/2007/10/26/my-thoughts-on-the-new-learner-driver-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5186</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is one aspect of Irish life that never ceases to surprise me: a learner driver who fails his driving test, gets to drive his car back home... Learner drivers should only be allowed on the road while learning to drive with an instructor and in a car with dual controls, like in most other countries. The current system is nonsensical and costs lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is one aspect of Irish life that never ceases to surprise me: a learner driver who fails his driving test, gets to drive his car back home&#8230; Learner drivers should only be allowed on the road while learning to drive with an instructor and in a car with dual controls, like in most other countries. The current system is nonsensical and costs lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Speekingkeesh</title>
		<link>http://blog.ellybabes.com/2007/10/26/my-thoughts-on-the-new-learner-driver-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5153</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Speekingkeesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but it does. My wife has her full licence less than two years, so she can&#039;t be my accompanying driver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but it does. My wife has her full licence less than two years, so she can&#8217;t be my accompanying driver.</p>
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		<title>By: Cronan</title>
		<link>http://blog.ellybabes.com/2007/10/26/my-thoughts-on-the-new-learner-driver-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5147</link>
		<dc:creator>Cronan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don- if you are on your third provisional license - this doesn&#039;t affect you since you can&#039;t drive unaccompanied anyway ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don- if you are on your third provisional license &#8211; this doesn&#8217;t affect you since you can&#8217;t drive unaccompanied anyway <img src='http://blog.ellybabes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s all about the L drivers at Holy Shmoly!</title>
		<link>http://blog.ellybabes.com/2007/10/26/my-thoughts-on-the-new-learner-driver-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5116</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s all about the L drivers at Holy Shmoly!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] shares her forthright thoughts on the new [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Damien Mulley &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Exclusive: Politics.ie now home to even more &#8220;young adult&#8221; whingebags</title>
		<link>http://blog.ellybabes.com/2007/10/26/my-thoughts-on-the-new-learner-driver-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-5093</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Mulley &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Exclusive: Politics.ie now home to even more &#8220;young adult&#8221; whingebags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and idiocy of the arguments from people obviously too lazy to learn to pass the driving test but Elly has summed it up succintly for me. Get off the fucking roads if you don&#8217;t like the rules, little ones. Less people will [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and idiocy of the arguments from people obviously too lazy to learn to pass the driving test but Elly has summed it up succintly for me. Get off the fucking roads if you don&#8217;t like the rules, little ones. Less people will [...]</p>
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